APPROVED

 

PLAN COMMISSION

March 3, 2011

Hudson Wisconsin  54016

 

 

Members Present:     Ray Knapp, Jan Cuccia, David Wolf, Mark Mitchell, Paul Mahler

 

Members Absent:      Bob Rolle, Joe Duerre

 

Staff Present:              Rob Jones, Cedar Corp.

 

Recording Secretary: Sharon Weide

 

Others present:          Kathy Halberg, Lee Halberg, Keith Willard, Jenny Willard, Tony Bauer,                                                   Laurie Halberg, Jim Marnie, Charlie Macdonell, Miles Cross.

 

Call to Order

Ray Knapp called the meeting of the Town of Troy Plan Commission to order at 7:00 p.m. followed by the Pledge of Allegiance.

 

AGENDA: 

  1. Approve Minutes;
  2. Exception to Design Standards – Thomas Jensen, 780 Chapman Dr;
  3. Concept review/public hearing for septic in the riverway – Patrick Delaney, 304 Cove Rd.;
  4. Concept review/public hearing – Keith & Jenny Willard, 171 Glenmont Ave;
  5. Building Permits/Utility Permits;
  6. Review & recommend revisions to Subdivision of Land Ordinance – Chapter 135;
  7. Committee report on wind energy system regulation;
  8. Committee Reports & correspondence;
  9. Adjourn;

 

1.      Approve Minutes;

 

Mark Mitchell moved to approve the minutes of the February 3, 2011 Plan Commission.  Paul Mahler seconded.  Motion passed, all in favor.

 

2.      Exception to Design Standards – Thomas Jensen, 780 Chapman Dr;

 

Ray Knapp said that the applicant had contacted the town clerk to withdraw the request for an exception to design standards.

 

3.      Concept review/public hearing for septic in the riverway – Patrick Delaney, 304 Cove Rd.;

 

Rob Jones explained that the applicant has applied for an after-the-fact permit for filling and grading in the Riverway District as a result of replacing a failing septic system.  Like an earlier application the septic tank failed, necessitating the replacement prior to obtaining all of the proper permits.  He described the site by saying that the septic tank is in the trench and that by now the contractor has most likely back filled.  He said that the timing of the replacement makes backfill compaction and site restoration more complicated so he advised the Plan Commission to consider ways to mitigate potential settling and erosion following the local thaw.  Rob added that this application could be considered in one of three ways - a permitted activity, a conditionally permitted activity within 40 feet of a slope preservation zone, or an after-the-fact variance in a slope preservation zone (SPZ).  He finished by saying that the site would need to be surveyed to determine which way the application should precede.

 

There was no one present representing the applicant.  Ray Knapp explained that the site is a sloped area and fairly close to the river.  Mark Mitchell asked where the site was in relation to the ordinary high water mark (OHWM) and Dave Wolf expressed his concern that the contractor felt that erosion control would not be an issue.  There was additional discussion about why the work needed to be done prior to obtaining the proper permit and whether or not there was enough information available to allow the applicant to move forward.

 

Ray Knapp opened the public hearing for septic in the riverway – Patrick Delaney, 304 Cove Rd. at 7:12 PM.  No one came forward to speak.  The public hearing was closed.

 

Members of the Plan Commission went on to discuss their concerns about the location of the septic tank in relation to the SPZ and erosion that could occur due to the spring floods.  Ray Knapp will write the applicant a letter directing them to appear before the Plan Commission in April.  The applicant will be directed to identify where the septic system is in relation to the SPZ so that it can be determined whether the final application will be for a permitted activity, a conditionally permitted activity within 40 feet of a slope preservation zone, or an after-the-fact variance in a SPZ.  Additionally, the applicant will be directed to address the erosion control issue.

 

4.      Concept review/public hearing – Keith & Jenny Willard, 171 Glenmont Ave;

 

Rob Jones began by explaining that the Willard's are proposing to increase the pitch of the roof, add a cupola to the roof line, replace the exterior surfaces on the roof and the home, and replace and screen in a portion of an existing deck.  There are three categories in our ordinance that apply to this application:

1.       A house in a nonconforming area is defined as a nonconforming principal structure.  Reconstruction, footprint expansion and vertical expansion are allowed if all applicable requirements are met in 171-L.3 and 171-L.4.  In this case it appears that the structure is greater than 200 feet from the OHWM and footprint expansion may be allowed up to 2000 square feet.  As such, enclosing a portion of the existing deck would be permitted as long as the area is counted in the total square footage of the structure.   Vertical expansion is permitted if the structure meets all the requirements for footprint expansion.

2.       The replacement of the roof surface and the siding is considered ordinary maintenance and repair.  The color and material proposed must comply with the standards in 171-I.

3.       The deck on the house is defined as a nonconforming accessory structure and unless a variance is granted work is limited to ordinary maintenance and repair, it cannot be replaced.

He finished by saying that although it appears the site is greater than 200 feet from the OHWM  he would like to see that noted on the site map.  Ray Knapp clarified that the only part of this application that would require a variance is the rebuilding of the deck prior to it's being enclosed.

 

Keith Willard explained that the structure is a 1974 built Wausau home and although the foundation and the walls are substantial, the overall effect is that it looks like a trailer.  The Willard’s want to improve the home’s appearance and structural integrity.  He said that the existing deck is not sturdy and that the spacing between the railings is not safe.  Jan Cuccia asked if this was a four season home, the answer was yes.  Rob Jones told the applicant that anytime there was reconstruction done on a riverway property it was necessary to verify that the septic system was sized properly and up to code.  The applicant was directed to work with the county on that point.

 

Ray Knapp opened a public hearing for Keith and Jenny Willard, 171 Glenmont Ave. at 7:35 PM.  The following people had comments:

·         Lee Halberg stated that he and his wife have no objections to the Willard's plans.

·         Miles Cross, Cross Construction, said that the current 3/12 pitch roof doesn’t meet current standards or code.  He added that the house has issues with ice dams and water and needs updating.  He finished by saying that the deck was not built on appropriate footings and should be replaced.

·         Laurie Halberg said that his family originally owned the property to the east and he has no objections to the plans

The public hearing was closed at 7:39 PM.

 

Ray Knapp began the Plan Commission's discussion by asking members if they agreed that modifications to the exterior of the house (if done in earth toned colors), raising the roof and adding the cupola were all permitted activities.  The consensus was that they could as long as the applicant could prove that the structure is greater than 200 feet from the OHWM.  Paul Mahler asked how high the house was now.   The answer was that it is 17 feet high now and with the cupola it will be about 24 to 25 feet high. 

 

The discussion then turned to the reconstruction of the deck.  The issue of hardship was addressed, along with other options, such as bumping out the house and putting in a new foundation, which is allowable under the Riverway Ordinance.  The majority of the Plan Commission members indicated that they could support rebuilding the deck and screening half of it.  Jan Cuccia said she would prefer that the applicant not ask for a variance, but if they felt it was necessary she said they would need to document hardship.  Paul Mahler and Jan Cuccia both offered viewpoints at to what constitutes a hardship.

 

The applicant was told that the following items would need to be submitted in the application for a Riverway Permit and variance:

1.       A scale drawing showing the OHWM and 200 foot setback, the square footage of the existing house, deck and the square footage of what is proposed,

2.       Photos of the existing vegetation and topography and a statement that it will not be disturbed,

3.       An erosion control plan or a statement that no earth will be disturbed, the location of any silt fencing,

4.       A schedule of any reseeding if necessary,

5.       Verification that the existing wastewater treatment system meets Department of Commerce Chapter 83 specifications.

 

5.      Building Permits/Utility Permits;

Building permits were reviewed.  There were no utility permits.  Rob Jones stated that Baldwin Telecom had begun the application process and the application would be coming before the Plan Commission for review in April.

 

6.      Review & recommend revisions to Subdivision of Land Ordinance – Chapter 135;

                                                                                                                       

Ray Knapp explained that State Legislature has made amendments Wisconsin Act 376 (platting requirements) and that those changes necessitate modifications in the town's Subdivision Ordinance (SDO).  He went on to say, per the town attorney, that local ordinances are prohibited from being more restrictive as to time limits and deadlines than state law and that sub-dividers now have the authority to construct subdivisions in phases.  Towns are also now prohibited  from requiring a letter of credit for the construction of infrastructure sooner than reasonably necessary.  Jan Cuccia and Ray Knapp then led a discussion on the revisions to the town's SDO.  There are additional violations proposed to section 135-4.C and renumbering of section 135-5.B in order add a new paragraph (135-B.3) that lays out the items the town will consider when determining if a phased proposal should be granted. 

 

There was considerable discussion around what a reasonable amount of time for completion of a phased project would be.  It was recommended that a subdivision should be completed within a reasonable amount of time not to exceed ten years.  Additionally, there should be a statement added that "infrastructure improvements in various phases that depend on one another must be done concurrently".  The Plan Commission would like to see these changes made to 135-5.B(3).

 

There will be a new paragraph in 135-B.4 requiring the disclosure of phasing plans at the time of preliminary plat submission and  a change in that section specifying that the final plat must be submitted for approval within 36 months of preliminary plat approval by the town.  Section 135-10.A makes changes to the letter of credit requirements.

 

Jan Cuccia moved to recommend to the Town board adoption of the revisions to the Subdivision of Land Ordinance – Chapter 135 as presented before us with the two revisions to Section 135-5.B(3) that we discussed.  David Wolf seconded.  Motion passed, all in favor.

 

7.      Committee report on wind energy system regulation;

 

Ray Knapp reported that the first meeting of the committee is scheduled for Monday, March 14th.

 

8.      Committee Reports & correspondence;

 

Jan Cuccia reported that she had attended a planning workshop in New Richmond and that it was recommended that there be periodic reviews of the Comprehensive Plan.  Additionally, attendees were told that towns should refer to their plans when making land use decisions.

 

Mark Mitchell asked what the Town Board felt about the Cooperative Boundary Agreement.  Ray Knapp said that in general the board felt unfavorably towards the draft and that there will be a discussion at the next meeting on what the next what steps should be in the negotiation process.

 

9.      Adjourn;

 

David Wolf moved to adjourn the meeting of the March 3, 2011 Plan Commission at 9:06 PM.  Mark Mitchell seconded.  Motion passed, all in favor.