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PLAN COMMISSION

July 7, 2011

Hudson Wisconsin  54016

 

 

Members Present:     Ray Knapp, Jan Cuccia, Joe Duerre, Mark Mitchell, Paul Mahler, Bob Rolle

 

Members Absent:      David Wolf (excused)

 

Staff Present:             Rob Jones, Cedar Corp.,

 

Recording Secretary:         Sharon Weide

 

Others present:          Gloria Knott, Erin Feyereisen, Robin Feyereisen, Rrick Banes, Charlie                                      Macdonell, Matt Hieb, Todd Zwiefelhofer.  Others were present who did                                  not sign in.

 

Call to Order

Ray Knapp called the meeting of the Town of Troy Plan Commission to order at 7:00 p.m. followed by the Pledge of Allegiance.

 

AGENDA: 

  1. Approve Minutes;
  2. Swearing in of reappointed committee member;
  3. Cemetery plat review in consideration of any needed exception to design standards - German Settlement Cemetery Plat, CTH U;
  4. Concept review – Jim Feyereisen, 336 CTH U;
  5. Riverway review/public hearing for reconstruction or expansion in a non-conforming area, a conditionally approved activity and variances as required for the project and discussion of requested town recommendation on county special exception request – Jonathan & Mary Wood, 206 N. Ilwaco Rd;
  6. Presentation on Asian Carp problem;
  7. Building Permits/Utility Permits;
  8. Committee Reports & correspondence;
  9. Adjourn;

 

1.   Approve Minutes;

 

Minutes of the May 5, 2011 Plan Commission meeting were reviewed.

 

Mark Mitchell moved to approve the minutes of the May 5, 2011 Plan Commission.   Joe Duerre seconded. 

 

Joe Duerre asked that the minutes be corrected to reflect the correct spelling of Bob Rolle's name on page 4, item number 4.  Bob Rolle asked that on page 5, item number 6 the sentence "He contends that an increase in vacancies and a decrease in housing unit density is the cause." be changed to "He suggested that one of the main reasons is an increase in vacancies and a decrease in housing unit density."

 

Motion carried to approve the corrected minutes.

 

2.   Swearing in of reappointed committee member;

 

Sharon Weide administered the oath of office to Paul Mahler, who has agreed to remain on the Plan Commission for another 3 years.

 

3.   Cemetery plat review in consideration of any needed exception to design standards - German Settlement Cemetery Plat, CTH U;

 

Rob Jones explained that the applicant is requesting approval of a Cemetery Plat.  State Statutes require that "the plat or map may not be recorded unless laid out and platted to the satisfaction of the county board of the county and town board of the town in which the land is situated."  He went on to say that the town's attorney has commented in an email that this platting activity does not appear to be regulated by our Subdivision Ordinance (SDO) but that as the statutes require town approval, the town is free to request reasonable context in the plan.  He finished by saying that the property was initially reviewed in October of 2008 when the applicant requested and received a St. Croix County Special Exception permit.

 

Jan Cuccia asked if the driveway had been removed as requested in the 2008 application.  Rob answered yes.  Bob Rolle asked for clarification on the zoning of this property.  Rob stated that a Special Exception had been granted for its use as a cemetery so zoning wasn't an issue.

 

Gloria Knott, representing the German Settlement Cemetery, stated that the only issues that were different from the plat in front of the Plan Commission was that the pipe length had been changed from 18" to 30" and the plat will be changed to show the County Supervisor signatures.

 

There was a question of whether or not the existing driveway should be shown on the plat and consensus was yes.

 

Ray Knapp moved that the Plan Commission recommend to the Town Board that they approve the cemetery map for the German Settlement Cemetery with the inclusion of identifying where the driveway exists.  Jan Cuccia seconded.  Motion carried.

 

4.   Concept review – Jim Feyereisen, 336 CTH U;

 

Rob Jones began by saying that the applicant is asking for a concept review prior to submitting an application for a CSM in order to create a four acre residential lot from a 30 acre parcel zoned exclusive agriculture for a family member's dwelling.  He explained that the SDO requires a farm plan for exclusive AG land  However, the ordinance allows a property owner to subdivide exclusive AG land without a farm plan if the single family residential dwelling will be occupied by a parent or child of an owner conducting the farm operations on the parcel.  He finished by saying that four acre lot would need to be included in a farm plan if there were further subdivision in the future of the 30 acre parcel.

 

Jason Feyereisen (son of the applicant) presented the Plan Commission with an approximate site plan that he had developed.  There were general questions from the Plan Commission regarding the siting of the proposed driveway, and whether or not it would be extended to the field behind the site.  Jason stated that for now, there are no plans to do that.  If there were to be access in the future it would be more like a path that would be cut through the woods at the back of the site.

 

There was additional discussion regarding setbacks and driveway spacing should the remainder of the 30 acres be further subdivided in the future.  Additionally, the Plan Commission felt there should be a note on the CSM that this parcel would need to be included in any farm plan should there be further subdivision.  There was also clarification of the minimum lot size allowed in the SDO.

 

The applicant was told that the Plan Commission had no seriousgrave concerns and that the next step would be to contact a surveyor and have the CSM drawn and submitted for approval.

 

5.   Riverway review/public hearing for reconstruction or expansion in a non-conforming area, a conditionally approved activity and variances as required for the project and discussion of requested town recommendation on county special exception request Jonathan & Mary Wood, 206 N. Ilwaco Rd;

 

Rob Jones began explaining that the applicant has applied for a Riverway permit for reconstruction and expansion of a nonconforming principal structure.  He reminded the Plan Commission that during the concept review they discussed whether the expansion should be considered parallel to the OHWM, whether a variance for filling and grading in a SPZ would be necessary if the current septic system was expanded, if the structure would remain visually inconspicuous from the river if increased in size to 34' 8" and whether there was support for a variance for the reconstruction of decks, new stairways and paths.  At that time the applicant was encouraged to limit the number of variances applied for.

 

He broke the project down into the following five major components and led the Plan Commission through a discussion of each.

 

1.  The expansion of the house.  He noted that the Plan Commission should consider:

·         If the structure will be visually inconspicuous from the river

·         The Riverway Ordinance (RWO) states that footprint expansion may occur only on the side of the structure farthest from the river or, if landward expansion is not possible, in a location that runs parallel to the OHWM.  The commission should consider where footprint expansion is being proposed and whether that expansion meets the criteria of the RWO

·         A portion of the principal structure footprint seems to include an attached garage. This would change the footprint calculations for the principal and accessory structures

·         Only the portion of the existing porch which is more than 75 feet from the OHWM is included in the footprint calculations and proposed expansion limits. However, the  portion of the porch closer than 75 feet from the OHWM has been considered deck by the applicant.  This interpretation was made by applicant to address limitations placed on expansion of nonconforming principal structures under 171-L.4c and d. 

2. The reconstruction of the deck.

·         The application proposes the reconstruction of the deck in a reduced footprint; however this would require a variance be granted. Rob noted that part of the deck proposed to be reconstructed could also be considered a porch, since this structure has been arbitrarily split by the applicant into porch and decking.

3. The POWTS and well systems.

·         The application proposes a new POWTS system and a new well that, due to the location, would require a variance for filling and grading in a slope preservation zone.  It was Rob’s understanding that the applicant is now proposing to move the location of the well and drain pipes so that a variance is not required.

4. The proposed retaining walls.

·         The applicant proposes to install retaining walls on both sides of the paver drive and walkway.  The RWO allows retaining walls if the town determines that they are necessary to address on-going erosion.  Rob noted that the eastern wall modifies the boundary of the SPZ by approximately 5 feet.  He added that although St. Croix County has approved this portion of the application, the WiDNR seems to oppose it based on an e-mail received earlier today.

5. The steps and deck between the existing detached garage and the house.

·         The application proposes stone steps and a deck walkway to provide pedestrian access to the river via the house.  He noted that the RWO permits stairways which provide pedestrian access to the river because of steep, rocky, unstable, or wet site conditions.  He added that St. Croix County had denied this portion of the applicants request.

 

Todd Zwiefelhofer, representing the Woods explained that the expansion of the house runs parallel to the OHWM.  He explained that a portion of the structure presently riverward of the existing home is considered porch and a portion is considered deck. The new home would expand into the portion of the porch area which is 75 feet from the OHWM. This would allow for expansion toward the river since a porch is considered part of a principal structure. He said the applicant proposes to reduce the footprint of the deck.  They are asking to remove it during construction and add it back on when construction is completed.  He felt that this could be considered ordinary repair and maintenance and consequently would not need a variance.

He explained that the septic and well dispersal area will be moved to the edge of the driveway, out of the SPZ to avoid a request for a variance.  He went on to say that the county and the WiDNR have no issues with the expansion or the decks.  Todd finished by saying that the retaining wall is necessary to control erosion and that the county is comfortable with its location.  He is in discussions with the WiDNR as they are opposed to it.

 

There was considerable discussion about the following points:

·         Whether or not the land to the north of the home site is a slope preservation zone.  It was determined that based on the definitions in the towns RWO it is.

·         The proximity of the principle structure and the decking in relation to the OHWM and the SPZ to the north.

·         The steps and the deck between the existing garage and the house and the definition of "pedestrian access".

·         The width of the driveway

·         The location and length of the retaining wall and its relationship to the SPZ.

o        The e-mail received earlier in the day from the DNR.  Mike Wenholz from the DNR stated that “An agreement was reached that the Woods would move all portions of the proposed retaining wall……to within slopes of less than 12%.  The applicant said that they had agreed to only consider this alternative and there were ongoing discussions between the DNR, County and applicant.

 

Bob Rolle moved to recommend approval for the reconstruction of the existing retaining wall located landward of the parking area and garage and approve an extension of that retaining wall and construction of a new retaining wall southward behind the bunkhouse (which will be removed) to the existing road and not to encroach upon the 12% slope.  Jan Cuccia seconded.  Motion carried.

 

The applicant was asked to better define the exact location of the relocated wall on the supporting documentation prior to the Town Board meeting.

 

Ray Knapp opened a public hearing relative to the five items listed by the town engineer and under consideration this evening at 9:15 PM.  No one came forward to speak.  The public hearing was closed.

 

There was additional discussion and clarification of the POWTS and the well and the location of the piping.  Rob Jones indicated that because the location was being  changed it will not be necessary to fill and grade in the SPZ. The applicant was asked to show the relocated well on the plans prior to the Town Board meeting.

 

Ray Knapp moved that the Plan Commission recommend to the Town Board approval of a POWTS system and well as defined in layout C3 with the condition that the well moved approximately five feet to the west out of the slope preservation zone and the piping will run under the driveway as agreed upon by the applicant.  Jan Cuccia seconded.  Motion carried.

 

There was considerable discussion about 171-J.7.a.  Section “a” sates that a stairway is required to provide access to the river because of steep, rocky, unstable or wet conditions. Commission members agreed that the applicant did not meet is basic criteria because the steps did not even go to the river. Also an alternate access, a driveway, allowed people to get safely from the detached garage to the home, which also had a garage.

 

Bob Rolle moved that the application for steps and deck between the existing detached garage and house not be approved as they do not meet the requirements of our conditionally permitted stairways under our riverway ordinance.  Jan Cuccia seconded.  Motion passed.

 

Additional discussion took place on the reconstruction and expansion of the house and the reconstruction of the deck.  There was considerable deliberation about whether or not a hardship would exist if the deck were not in place.

 

Ray Knapp moved that the Plan Commission recommend to the Town Board approval for the expansion of the home as shown on layout C4 based on the following things that we've reviewed.  That we have considered:

·         The preservation of the view and use of the river

·         The maintenance of safe and healthful conditions

·         The prevention and control of water pollution

·         The location of the site in respect to floodways, floodplains, slope preservation zones, and blufflines

·         The erosion potential of the site

·         The impact on terrestrial and aquatic habitat

·         The location of the site in respect to existing or future roads

·         The adequacy of proposed wastewater treatment systems

·         The compatibility with adjacent land uses

In expanding this residence no trees that would shelter or block the residence from the river will be removed and the home must be constructed with materials that are compatible with our riverway ordinance.  Bob Rolle asked to have the following added as a friendly amendment - and the existing garage will be made uninhabitable and will not be made inhabitable in the future.  Jan Cuccia seconded.

 

Todd Zwiefelhofer brought Ray's attention to five trees that will be removed, two of which are on the north side of the home.  There was additional discussion on this point, after which it was determined that these trees would not impact the visibility  of the site from the river.

 

Friendly amendment by Ray Knapp to add "except the two trees identified on layout C5."  Jan Cuccia concurred.  Motion carried.

 

There was additional consideration of the proposed deck reconstruction.  A portion of the existing deck is covered and as such, is considered a porch.  A portion of the porch will be enclosed and become part of the reconstructed principle structure.  The remaining deck and a portion of the porch on this level will be removed during construction of the house.  Once the house is finished the applicant proposes to reconstruct it in order to provide access to the home.  Discussion also took place regarding whether or not the deck was required in order to provide access and if, by allowing the reconstruction of the principal structure, the Plan Commission had already agreed that it was a conforming structure in terms of the 50'/75' rule. Ray was concerned that the applicant had not shown a non-self-imposed hardship.  He was also concerned that the covered portion of the deck was partially considered a deck and partially considered porch in order to satisfy different portions of the river way ordinance.

 

Bob Rolle moved that the Plan Commission recommend the Board of Appeals grant a variance for the reconstruction and conversion of the deck that was previously a porch  located riverward of the house and the reconstruction of other existing for the following reasons:

·         That there would be hardship in terms of being able to enter the house, you retain riverward facing decks if this were not permitted

·         The public interest will not be harmed by granting the variance

·         That the core concerns of the riverway ordinance will be met if the variance is granted

·         That the reconstructed deck (s) will not create an expansion of structure as facing the river and will remain visually inconspicuous as viewed from the river

·         That the town's riverway ordinance technical standards regulating erosion and storm water management shall be met and that no additional hard surface will be created and that no additional runoff will be greater than the preexisting structure

·         That the construction will increase the value of the property and have no adverse effect on neighboring properties.

Joe Duerre seconded.

 

Ray Knapp commented that in his opinion this is a self-imposed hardship and that access to the home could be accomplished in a different manner.  There was some final discussion on accessory structures and the location of the deck relative to the OHWM and whether or not hardship has been demonstrated.

 

Motion carried.

 

6.   Presentation on Asian Carp problem;

 

Bob Rolle asked the members of the Plan Commission to read a report he put together on Asian Carp.  He then summarized that report by explaining that there were four types of Asian Carp and that together, their feeding habits can decimate the food chain for other fish and overwhelm an aquatic infrastructure.  He explained the efforts that the Army Corp. of engineers has employed in an effort to stop the spread of the carp and whether they have been effective or not.  He addressed the threat to the St. Croix River and consequences should breeding populations spread.  He finished by asking the Plan Commission to direct him write a letter requesting the involvement of the MnDNR, WiDNR and the National Park Service to prevent the spread of Asian Carp to the St. Croix Riverway and its tributaries.  The Plan Commission agreed that Bob should draft a letter for the Town Chair.

 

7.   Building Permits/Utility Permits;

 

Building Permits were reviewed.  There were no new homes.  The following utility permits were presented for approval:

 

Permit #     Applicant                      Address                        Project

U11-006     St. Croix Gas                415 S. Second St.          Installation of underground gas main                                                             River Falls, WI  54022                          

U11-007     St. Croix Gas                415 S. Second St.          Installation of underground gas service                                                          River Falls, WI  54022   to 230 Plainview Dr.

 

Joe Duerre moved the Plan Commission recommend approval of U11-006 and U11-007 for St. Croix Gas.  Jan Cuccia seconded.  Motion carried.         

 

8.   Committee Reports & correspondence;

 

Jan Cuccia reported that she, Bob Rolle and Charlie Macdonell went on a boat trip on the St. Croix River.

 

Ray Knapp reported that he, Charlie Macdonell and Bob Rolle have completed a second draft of a letter as a follow-up to opting out of county zoning.

 

Ray Knapp reported that he had received County correspondence that asked for input on a request from the Rohl's to renew their non-metallic mining permit. Ray noted that he was going to respond to the County that the Town had no input on renewal.

 

Mark Mitchell reported that he had been told that the Bjerstedt Court had not had the second layer of asphalt put down.  It was determined that Bjerstedt court was not yet a town road.

 

Mark Mitchell asked if there were any new developments in the boundary agreement with River Falls.  Ray Knapp said that the agreement was dead in the water.

 

9.    Adjourn;

 

Mark Mitchell moved to adjourn the meeting of the July 7, 2011 Plan Commission at 10:23 PM.    Jan Cuccia seconded.  Motion carried.