APPROVED                   PLAN COMMISSION

                                                          September 3, 2009

                                                  Troy Town Hall @ 7:00 p.m.

                                                     Hudson Wisconsin 54016

 

Members Present: Ray Knapp, Jan Cuccia, Bob Rolle, Mark Mitchell, Joe Duerre

                                

Members Absent:  Paul Mahler, David Wolf (excused)

 

Recording Secretary:     Becky Lopez    

 

Others Present:     Charlie Macdonell, Wally Riedel, Tanner Turnquist, Jon Sonnentag, and

                                unidentified others

 

Call to Order

Ray Knapp called the meeting of the Town of Troy Planning Commission to order at 7:04 p.m. followed by the Pledge of Allegiance.

 

AGENDA: 

  1. Approve Minutes; 
  2. Acknowledgement of applications for action as regulated by SDO;
  3. 3 lot CSM – Tanner Turnquist, 576 Boundary Rd.;
  4. Rezoning Exclusive Ag to Ag/Res – Frederick & Ruth Anding, 431 Hwy 35;
  5. Rezoning Exclusive Ag to Ag/Res – Raymond & Eloise Anding, 403 Hwy 35;

      6.    Concept review in the Riverway for reconstruction of conforming structure (garage)-

             Steve Weekes, 342 Cove Rd.;

7.    Building Permits/Utility Permits;

8.    Committee Reports & correspondence;

9.    Adjourn;

 

1.             Approve Minutes;

 

             Minutes of the August 5, 2009 Plan Commission were reviewed.

            

             Mark Mitchell moved to approve the minutes of the August 5 Plan Commission.

             Joe Duerre seconded. Motion passed, all in favor.

 

             Ray Knapp informed the members of the Plan Commission that he received a phone

             call from the Andings on Tuesday requesting that items numbered 4 and 5 be

             removed from the Agenda due to the Applicants’ indecision about whether to pursue

             rezoning, as they would be required to submit a Farm Plan. Ray then asked for a motion

             to remove those items from the agenda.

 

             Joe Duerre moved to remove items 4 and 5 from the Plan Commission Agenda.

             Bob Rolle seconded. All in favor. Motion passed.

 

2.         Acknowledgement of applications for action as regulated by SDO;

 

            The PC addressed a request for an acknowledgement concerning the Turnquist property.

            Rob Jones informed the PC that all of the materials required by the sub-division ordinance

            have been delivered to the Clerk Treasurer, Town Attorney, and Town Engineer, and that

            those materials are complete.

            

 

          

             Mark Mitchell moved to Acknowledge the Application for a Minor Sub-division for

             the Tanner Turnquist property at 576 Boundary Road. Jan Cuccia seconded the

             motion. In discussion, Jan pointed out the blank spot on the application for a date.

             Ray stated that the PC has 90 working days from acknowledgement to take action.

             All in favor. Motion passed.

 

3.        3 lot CSM – Tanner Turnquist, 576 Boundary Rd.;

 

            Rob Jones reviewed his notes on this. He stated that there are some minor changes to the

            CSM following county comments. The shared driveway easement on Lot 5 to

            provide access from Boundary Road to Lots 5 and 6 was shown as a flag lot with a 2-

            party shared driveway agreement. After discussion with the County concerning their

            geometric requirements, the Applicants moved the easement to be part of lot 7. This was

            done to address lot width as it relates to road setback.

            

            Jon Sonnentag further clarified the County’s requirements concerning the lot width and

            setback requirements and why they decided to make the changes concerning the driveway

            easement.

 

            Rob then brought up the original farm plan and density allowances. The current proposal

            is for three lots. Four would have been allowed if the total sub-division plan had taken

            place when the parcel was first sub-divided. He then said that he had spoken with the

            Town Attorney and she requested that it be specifically spelled out that this application is

            an Amendment to the original Farm Plan, and that the Farm Plan does not cease to exist,

            this just becomes a part of that plan. He also brought up the issue that Lots 5 and 6 are

            large enough that they could potentially be sub-divided again. The Plan Commission

            generally is not supportive of that and so a note was put on the CSM which states,”Per the

            Town of Troy no further subdivision of the property shown hereon is permitted.” The

            applicant also submitted a Deed Restriction Document stating that further subdivision of

            this property was prohibited. In discussion with the Town Attorney, she stated concerns

            that neither of these were enforceable to her satisfaction, and that a Conservation

            Easement would be the better solution in this case, if the applicant wanted to remove a

            development right from the property. Rob noted that to pursue the development right, the

            owners of Lots 2 and 3 would need to agree, since they are part of the original Farm Plan.

            The Town Attorney is willing to work with the applicant over the next week to create a

            notorized document foregoing any additional claims to development rights and they

            could proceed and still receive approval this month.            

 

            Rob then summarized the requirements he and the Town Attorney feel that the applicant

            would need to fulfill before proceeding with this sub-division request. They were:

     

                    1) Explicitly request an Amendment to the original Farm Plan.

 

                    2) Agree to forego a claim to any additional development rights and pursue a 

                        notarized agreement drafted by the Town Attorney.

                

                    3) Revise the driveway covenants to include some specifics as to rights granted and

                        remove some of the internal inconsistent language.

 

            Ray provided copies of Rob’s notes to the public.

 

            Jon Sonnentag then addressed the PC. He asked the PC to clarify what would be

            required to pursue this at the Town Board meeting next week.           

 

            Ray stated that last month the PC shared their preference to have a Town Road serving all

            three lots. Jon said that the applicant did not want to do that because of the added

            cost as well as the fact that there would be no further development requiring use of that

            Town road.

 

            Ray asked the applicant if he was willing to go along with the requirements

            stated by Rob, and if he pursued the removal of a development right that the owners of

            Lots 2 and 3 would have to be involved? Tanner acknowledged that he understood his

            options.

           

            Ray summarized that he would be willing to go forward with recommendation to approve

            this application with compliance to the requirements stated by the Town Attorney.

            However, this would not have been his preferred plan and that he would rather not see

            four driveways coming onto Boundary Road. He also suggested that wording should be

            included in the Driveway Covenants stating that no Occupancy Permits would be issued

            until the shared driveway was paved or a financial guarantee was made. All of the PC

            members agreed with this. 

          

            During further discussion, there was consensus that it would be best to have the shared

            driveway serve Lots 5, 6, and 7. This would normally require a Town Road, but since it

            will only serve 3 lots with no possibility of additional use, it was agreed that an exception

            to design standards could be granted. Ray then asked Rob how this would affect the

            applicant’s timetable for pursuing approval of his application. Rob said that he would

            have to check, but he believed that the exception to design standards could be requested at

            the same time that the applicant appeared before the Board. Rob further stated that the

            town ordinance still requires that shared drives be built to town road standards. They

            typically reduce that requirement to 12’ paved surface with 3’ shoulders. This has been

            revised in the draft ordinance, but has not been adopted yet. It was suggested that wider

            turnouts to Boundary Road be included to facilitate traffic flow.   

            

 

            Bob Rolle motioned that the Plan Commission recommend approval for a CSM

            application made by Tanner Turnquist, 576 Boundary Road with the following

            conditions:

 

                    1) That the Applicant request an amendment to the original farm plan.

                   

                    2) That the Applicant forego a claim to an additional development right, and

                         pursue a notarized agreement drafted by the Town Attorney.

                       

                    3) The Applicant revise the driveway covenants to include additional specifics as

                         to the rights granted and remove some of the internal inconsistencies in the

                         language.    

                 

                   4) That the Applicant build a Town shared driveway 16’ wide with 12 feet of

                        blacktop to town road standards, prior to occupancy of any dwellings on the

                        three new lots or posting a bond equal to the amount of the road construction.

 

                   5) All three new lots’ driveways will access the new shared driveway and not

                       Boundary Road. The shared driveway will be approved as an exception to

                      design standards.

 

            Mark Mitchell seconded. Ray suggested as a friendly amendment that the width of

            the shared driveway should be 18 feet, with 12’ of asphalt, and 3’ shoulders. Jan

            added a friendly amendment concerning the shared driveway being an exception to

            design standards.Bob Rolle accepted both amendments. All in favor. Motion passed.

 

            Jon Sonnentag suggested that the amended farm plan request be a part of the

            notarized document.

 

            Rob looked up the “exception to design standards” in the sub-division ordinance. The

            ordinance states that the applicant may petition the Town of Troy and does not make any

            other reference as to the timeline and notification requirements. Rob suggested that the

            applicant include this in his petition to the Town Board.

  

 

4.          Rezoning Exclusive Ag to Ag/Res – Frederick & Ruth Anding, 431 Hwy 35;

 

             Removed from the Agenda by motion passed by PC members.

 

            

5.         Rezoning Exclusive Ag to Ag/Res – Raymond & Eloise Anding, 403 Hwy 35;

 

            Removed from the Agenda by motion passed by PC members.

 

 

6.         Concept review in the Riverway for reconstruction of conforming structure (garage)-

            Steve Weekes, 342 Cove Rd.:

 

             Ray stated that this was a Concept Review and Public Hearing in the Riverway for

             Reconstruction of a conforming structure, a garage for Steve Weeks at 342 N. Cove Rd.

            

             Rob directed everyone to his notes, saying that this is an accessory structure in a

             conforming area of the Riverway district. He stated the goals of the concept review as:

               

·         Identify the requirements of the ordinance that apply to the applicants plans.

·         Discuss and refine the applicants’ plans where possible.

·         Identify the information that applicants will be expected to provide with the Riverway Permit or Variance Application.

 

              This applicant is proposing to replace a garage/pool house that burnt down in a lightning

              strike. The applicants have stated that they don’t intend to modify the footprint to any

              great extent, and are working with an Architect. Rob suggested that the PC take any

              questions that the applicant has and identify what items we would like to see as part of

              the permit application. In this case the applicant has already begun filing the application

              to give notice for next month’s meeting.

 

              Ray asked Mr. Weekes if he had given his neighbors notice of the Concept Review. The

              normal requirement is 24 days notice, but the Plan Commission would like to waive this

              requirement because the loss of the Weekes’ garage was an act of nature. Mr. Weekes

              stated that he had contacted the neighbors (as requested by the Plan Commission

              Chairperson) and that they had given written approval of waiving the 24 day notice and

              also written approval for them to rebuild a similar structure, and that he had turned those

              documents into the Town. He thanked the PC for cooperating with him to help expedite

              this process. He stated that they will be using the same architect and that it will be very

              close to the same footprint. Ray asked him if he had contacted the County, which Mr.

              Weekes affirmed, stating that the County had his file and said that since this is a

              conforming structure, this should be about a 2 week process. They stated that they will

              not need to come out and see the building before it is razed. The PC members agreed that

              Mr. Weekes could remove all debris, but should not start construction until a Riverway

              permit is issued. Mr. Weekes stated that they will be using Zappa and that he will apply

              for the proper permits and they will get that done. He said that he was applying to be on

              the PC and Town Board agendas in October.    

 

              Ray asked the applicant if everything stated by the Town Engineer was correct.

              Mr. Weekes said that the summary was correct. Rob reminded the applicant that he must

              also follow the general standards concerning setbacks, color, vegetation, erosion control,

              etc.

 

              Rob and the PC members then went through the checklist for the applicant stating

              exactly what items needed to be included in the Riverway Permit Application.

 

1.      A scale drawing showing all pertinent information. This should be in the form of an Architectural drawing showing building height, external dimensions, and general layout. Ray stated that the PC will stamp this in October and give it to the Building Inspector, so he knows we have approved it.

2.      A recent aerial photograph is not required in this case.

3.      Proposed alterations of vegetation and topography. A statement explaining their vegetation plans would suffice if no significant alterations were planned. Pictures of existing vegetation should be included. The applicant should put  X’s on the photos clearly identifying the few trees that will need to be removed as a result of fire damage.

4.      A mitigation plan for nonconforming structure expansion-NA

5.      Photos of the site taken from the middle of the river, slightly upstream and downstream of the property -Waived.

6.      An erosion control plan. Most important if they will be doing any significant grading. Mr. Weekes stated that he did not anticipate  that they would be disturbing enough soil for that to apply. Rob will help the Applicant draft a statement saying that they agree to follow best management practices concerning erosion control.

7.      A vegetation management plan- Mr. Weekes stated that they will be re-landscaping upon completion.

8.      Any other information requested by the Town-NA

9.      Location of proposed on-site wastewater treatment system and private water supply information. Bob Rolle suggested that they get a statement from the County verifying that the waste water system on the property is adequate. Mr. Weekes said that he could have Zappas get that when they get the permit from the county.

10.  A plan showing the proposed construction of structural erosion control measures-NA

11.  Specifications for Transmission services-NA

12.  A construction plan for stairways and lifts-NA

 

            Ray then opened the public hearing for the reconstruction of a conforming

            structure –a garage/pool house for Steve Weekes, 342 N. Cove Road. He

            asked if there was anyone present who would like to speak to this. There

            were no comments, so he closed the public hearing.

                     

         

7.         Building Permits/Utility Permits;

 

             One Utility Permit:

             Permit # U09-006   Applicant: St. Croix Gas      To install underground gas

                                                                                          service to 344 N. Cove Rd.

                                                                                  

             Rob stated that they had received the fee payment and everything seems to be in order.

 

             Jan Cuccia recommended approval for this permit. Joe Duerre seconded. All in

             favor. Recommendation passed.

             

             Two driveway permit applications were received. Ray will follow up with Brian Wert on

             the Tanner Turnquist driveway permit application to understand why this has been issued

             as the Town is still considering his sub-division request.

        

8.         Committee Reports & correspondence;

        

            There were none.     

 

             Bob Rolle requested that “ Discussion of Commercial Density” be included on the Plan

             Commission October agenda.

 

9.         Adjourn;

 

         Joe Duerre moved to adjourn. Mark Mitchell  seconded. All in favor. Motion

         passed, meeting adjourned at 8:20 PM.